BAO FAQ

[yeeman]

I emailed Reece and he got back to me, and said that he wants all questions sent in an email as they are compiling an FAQ as we speak on common things that people have questions on.

I figure here can be the outlet from the Punishers as to what our questions are as a group and what we need to know as a group.

I'll start:

1. Do Necron inside of Night Scythes take the Str 10 hits when the Night Scythe is blown up?

2. If stunned/shaken or Jinked in the previous turn, does a Storm Talon still need to shoot Snap Shots if it switches to Hover Strike Mode? Or can it even switch to Hover Strike Mode?

3. If the passengers inside of a vehicle shoot but not the vehicle itself, can the vehicle still Flat Out?

4. Are you counting the Quad-Gun or other gun emplacements as Kill Points/First Blood?

5. Can you man an opponents gun emplacement? Can you shoot an opponents gun emplacement if someone is already in base contact with it?

Thats it for now.

[madfjohn]

i can answer number 4 for you from comicosy its does not count as first blood nor a kill point.

1) does a warp head get 2 warp stones if so does he get to roll two times on his chart?

2) can a burna be used in over wach if it was not used in the shooting faze. ( they still not clear)

3) ok a little out there on this one but i just went over the FAQ so i will ask to see if any one found the answer in the main book. Can a mech boy fix a hull point on a wreck? ( in doing so bring it back from wreck status.) also to note you are to levee wrecks on the board. but destroid you are to remove a place a crater.

[yeeman]

Well I just read your FAQ John and I can thoroughly answer 2 of the answers from your FAQ I believe.

1. i dont know. I will have to look in the codex to see this. I am not familiar with the Warp'ead

2. Yes a Burna can be used to overwatch, if it shot in the previous shootign phase. Not quite sure of the question. BUT, it is not a power weapon in that assault phase if you overwatch with it.

Q: What type of power weapon is a burna in combat? (p45)
A: A burna is an unusual power weapon when used in close
combat, therefore it is AP3.

Q: Can a burna be used to shoot in Overwatch and be used as a power
weapon later in the same Assault phase? (p45)
A: No.

3. No you cannot fix a HP by using the Mek Boy. It says in the FAQ what you can do with him:

Page 34 – Mekboyz, Mek’s Tools.
Change the second and third sentences to read ”In each of
your Shooting phases, instead of firing his weapons, a Mekboy
may choose to repair a single friendly vehicle that he is in base
contact with or embarked upon. Roll a D6 – if the result is a 4
or more, you may restore a Hull Point lost earlier in the battle,
or repair a Weapon Destroyed or Immobilised result suffered
earlier in the battle; this is effective immediately”.

As far as Comicaze, I won't use Doc's rulings to get an answer. I know in some Bat Reps that Reece has counted it as First Blood but unsure of his stance as of now.

Keep the questions coming!

[Omegaprime]

Yeeman,

#3 says and I think this is key to supporting your information

”In each of your Shooting phases, instead of firing his weapons, a Mekboy
may choose to repair a single friendly vehicle that he is in base
contact with or embarked upon."It clearly says repair. Once a vehicle is wreaked its no longer considered a vehicle. it either becomes a dangerous piece of terrain or a piece of terrain.

[madfjohn]

thanks Omegaprime you see where i was asking .

you got your tournaments mixed Yeeman comicosy is a zerocomp tournament in LA you where thinking selesticon for Docs tourniment. and rece ruled its dous not count as first blood

as for the bournas how the ork book read the brna is a power weapon in the asalt face if it was not shot in the shooting face. so if i did not shoot it in the shooting face its now a power weapon in the assalt fase and this is where over wach is now do you see the problem

[yeeman]

Plus it only lists Immobilized and weapon destroyed or hull points lost as what it can repair. But i agree, once a vehicle is wrecked it become Battlefield Debris, it is no longer a vehicle.

[yeeman]

John, the FAQ answers your question... It is not a Power Weapon if you shoot it for Overwatch.

[madfjohn]

umm you mist it thow how the book gose .

a burna may be used in the shooting phase with the profile below ( rang templet Str 4 Ap 5 Note assault 1 ) or as a power weapon in an assault, but not both in the same turn.

and the FAQ:
Q: Can a burna be used to shoot in Overwatch and be used as a power
weapon later in the same Assault phase? (p45)
A: No.

so how it gose its my tourn its my shooting phase i cant hit you with the burna so i do not shoot now in your tourn you declare a assalt sens i did not shoot you and its in the assalt phase the burna is a power weapon. this is the argument going on about it. the FAQ only restates what the book sead you can not have bouth abilitys in one tourn .
so the dibate is is it still posible to chose in the assalt phase which ability on the bourna. argument is no its in assalt phas and you did not shoot it so its a power weapon so no over wach with it.

now if you look around at many of the ork builds now do you see them puting burnas in battle wagons and the like . not any more for the pore ork player still cant argue so they can over wach.

[yeeman]

The way i see it is this:

You shoot in your turn. If you assault, they are not Power Weapons.

You shoot in your turn. You dont assault. Person assaults you, you overwatch, they are not Power Weapons.

You shoot in your turn. You dont assault. Person assaults you, you don't overwatch, they are Power Weapons.

If you choose to shoot the previous turn has no relevance on whether it is a Power Weapon or not during your opponents turn.

If you overwatch, no Power Weapon. The no Power Weapon restriction only lasts one assault phase.

I do not understand how there is question on this. It seems very cut and dry.

[yeeman]

Is your question, that if your locked in assault for more than one phase after you've shot them, do Burnas become Power Weapons? The answer to that question would be yes. The restriction to them being Power Weapons after firing only lasts the turn you fired them.

Situation:

You overwatch, some assaults you. No Powers Weapons. You stay locked in assault. Your turn. They are Power Weapons.

[madfjohn]

now i realy wish you worked for GW on stuff like this lol i agrey with you on this for how it shood work.
I just voicing what is still going on for the bourna and how moast are treating it and i get to wach the ork camunity get ran over for to many do not whant to have the burna be able to over wach.
sort of like the question i ask on grand stratigy and zog worts cours . they say it does not riplace it but yet they will say it does riplace Gaz waagh but its the same thing it changed befor the game and you can still call gaz waaagh even if he is dead but they say no and then they rivers once more on grand stratigy. fustrating.

[yeeman]

i just dont see how some people can argue with the Ork Burna ruling. It seems so cut and dry. But I guess there is some of "those people."

I dont know what Zogworts curse is, so I will not comment on it.

Anyone else have an questions? Mark? Black Ryan? Ben? Liz? Matt? Jason?

[Omegaprime]

I'm no authority when it comes to Orks, however I can read a codex and FaQ's. Not that I'm trying to fire off an insult upon anyone. That being said I think between the Core rule book, Faq's and such I often find these arguments are caused by players perceptions of rules rather then the actual rules themselves. I do agree with Yeeman, it seems pretty cut and dry to me. Further, I think the Warhammer community at large loves drama :-)

[yeeman]

Only John love drama.

John... This will not turn into another Old Zogwort. LOL

[madfjohn]

ROFLMAO only if its Zogwort .

i do totally agry about 40k drama my self i just want to play the game but so many say one thing and then flop it when it goes against them. so most of the time i fighting to get the rules out there to be correct for every one to play with. like old Zog till i relay under stand it all i will keep poking at it till i get it down then i pass on what i learned. Did the same with snikorot part of why there is a FAQ slot for him from GW .

we shood do some how to things. Like how to keep your sarg out of a challenge but still in the fight. besides we all know how well GW wording is so ezoly misinterpeted.

like in my and scots last game my aponet was so woried i was tring to pull a fast one on him when i was rolling 3 wounds at ones for one modole at a time when he had a dabil out wounds . i Faild all thre and insted of puling 1 i pull 3 and i told him i was trying to speed it up not jip him in kills.