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Post by Ekwaaagh on Apr 22, 2013 10:03:12 GMT -8
Was hoping for your expertise on this subject... John I know you are an experienced ork player so you might know the answer to this.
Old zogwort... He has a bs of "0"... But he has access to weird boy chart during shooting phase to utilize a random power. 2 and 3 on this chart are i guess psychic shooting attacks. 2 is a "frazzle" attack str 6 ap 3 blast that specifies an automatic hit in the codex- I am assuming this means I put small blast template on choice unit and it scores a "hit"... 3 is a "zzap" attack str 10 ap2 melta 36 " that again specifies automatic hit in the codex...
Is the above right or is there something in 6th edition saying he loses these codex specified powers due to having bs 0?
Thanks for help all!
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Post by yeeman on Apr 22, 2013 10:42:52 GMT -8
Oh no... Not this discussion again... lol
Unfortunately no, he cannot shoot because of his BS 0. because the his BS is 0 he cannot make any shooting attacks, period. it does not matter that it auto hits, the restriction of not being able to shoot supercedes that.
Oh and Eric, I would like to know if you would bei nterested in doing a 40k draft league i am putting together. If so, Wednesday at 630 is when we are going to meet to go over guidelines and such. If Wednesdays work for you than we will do it on Wednesday and would love for you to come down. This Wednesday you wont have to bring anything besides your Ork Codex.
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Post by yeeman on Apr 22, 2013 10:44:29 GMT -8
Also, are you having trouble logging in? have you tried the name you made?
It is... ekwaagh
IDK the password, but maybe you put in too many "a's?" try again and let me know if you still are having trouble.
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Post by ekwaaagh on Apr 22, 2013 11:20:55 GMT -8
Wow thanks for the quick reply!
Yeah tried again and even inputted as if forgot password but did not recognize user.
Too bad about Zogwort... It appears the intent of him having 0 bs is for conventional shooting attacks and not to effect his psychic abilities. So what is the alternative if you roll a 1,2 or 3? Nothing? Becomes power weapon?
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Post by yeeman on Apr 22, 2013 11:49:15 GMT -8
If you roll Frazzle or Zzap, unfortunately you cannot reroll and are stuck with a useless power.
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Post by madfjohn on Apr 22, 2013 12:56:33 GMT -8
here the FAQ on it page 5
Q:If Old Zogwort rolls on the Weirdboy psychic power chart and
gets a psychic power that is resolved as a Shooting attack
(specifically Frazzle or Zzap) may he re-roll this power? If not then
can he ignore the power for the purposes of expending Warp
Charge points? (p61)
A: No to both questions
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Post by ekwaaagh on Apr 22, 2013 13:43:14 GMT -8
Thanks for the clarification.
Was hoping for a different outcome considering he seems to be such a fun HQ to play... Turning an opponents HQ into a squig?!? Nothing better than that! Not to mention I custom made Old Zogwort... I guess I can use him as a Weirdboy Warphead instead.
Anyone encounter playing with or against a Weirdboy and how effective was he? Planning to play test.
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Post by madfjohn on Apr 22, 2013 15:54:39 GMT -8
well last night i had a Apok game with 2 and oldzog . was loads of fun when i wood waaaaaghhh every tern till they shot it down darn space wolf lol.
to be honest if you are not running a dakka jet with him they are not very use full they are more random and can really hinder you. Then there the times where you roll everything you need right at that moment and they wipe the field with their ability.
before 6th came out i was running oldzog in the coc . How it worked out was 2 out of the 3 games i would win and 50% of that he wood live even with the bad rolls. Now with precision shot , challenges , casualty removal , and template i find they do not work well unless you build a full list around two of them. In one off games you might have a better chance with them.
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Post by fnpftw on Apr 23, 2013 8:45:35 GMT -8
He can reroll now
Q: If Old Zogwort rolls on the Weirdboy psychic power chart and gets a
psychic power that is resolved as a Shooting attack (specifically Frazzle
or Zzap) may he re-roll this power? If not, then can he ignore the power
for the purposes of expending Warp Charge points? (p61)
A: As a Warphead, he may re-roll, but may not ignore the
powerforthe purposes of expending Warp Charge points if his
re-roll also comes up as Frazzle or Zzap.
^ thats the new faq
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Post by yeeman on Apr 23, 2013 10:14:05 GMT -8
You can now re-roll if you get Frazzle or Zzap, but cannot re-roll again if your re-roll comes up as Frazzle or Zzap.
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Post by Ekwaaagh on Apr 23, 2013 10:23:32 GMT -8
Devon, so does that mean he can continue to re-roll until he gets power he can use or he is done after conventional one re-rolls that Warphead gets? Also is his first power "head banger" null as well since it is in essence "frazzle" centered on him? Frazzle is the shooting attack blast 6str ap3.
Also I am trying to understand the warp charge thing... I know u expend one to cast psychic power... But Orks can't use conventional charts others can so not sure how it applies for ork psycher.
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Post by yeeman on Apr 23, 2013 10:32:49 GMT -8
I am Cody.
The only Psychic Shooting attacks for Orks, as clarified by their FAQs are Frazzle and Zzap.
You may only reroll once and must live with the reroll.
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Post by madfjohn on Apr 23, 2013 11:22:01 GMT -8
umm you all know what a warp head is? it is a upgrad to the weird boy and oldzog has it . by the codex you may re roll once per turn on the chart. this is in the codex befor this FAQ so why is this here ?
Q: If Old Zogwort rolls on the Weirdboy psychic power chart and gets a
psychic power that is resolved as a Shooting attack (specifically Frazzle
or Zzap) may he re-roll this power? If not, then can he ignore the power
for the purposes of expending Warp Charge points? (p61)
A: As a Warphead, he may re-roll, but may not ignore the
powerforthe purposes of expending Warp Charge points if his
re-roll also comes up as Frazzle or Zzap.
some one really messing up . all the changes they list are already listed in the book before the FAQ for orcs for april 13.
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Post by Ekwaaagh on Apr 23, 2013 12:44:49 GMT -8
Got it thanks all.
Sorry Cody was actually responding to Devon did not see your post yet.
So in essence allowed re-roll once and must live with result of getting nothing if 2 or 3.
I agree John that Warphead is already allowed one re-roll anyway so no "real" help... At least u still have a chance to turn any HQ into a squig!!
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Post by madfjohn on Apr 23, 2013 13:09:39 GMT -8
aye lol love that one
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